53 00:10:53.010 --> 00:11:01.440 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Welcome everyone. I'd like to go ahead and call it an order the August 20 2020 meeting of the downtown development review board and we will jump right in. I'm going to read an opening statement and instructions. On behalf of the City. In an effort to slow the bread of the Covid 19 virus and to encourage social distancing Governor de Santos issued Executive Order 2016 nine allowing local governments to hold public meetings using communications media technology. Rather than in a physical location and keeping with the executive order the downtown development review board meeting is being held via zoom teleconference which allows interested persons to view and participate in the meeting remotely. I would like to go ahead and introduce the board members we have board member Durdan. Board member Shilling, Board member Loretta, Board Member Davison, Board member, Allan. And I believe that I miss anyone On the board members. So we have staff, Mr Parola Miss Lori Radcliffe-Myers and Miss Mezini. From the Office of General Counsel, we have Jason teal. And I believe we have Deborah Pataky representing Council member LeAnne Cumber on as well. Did I miss anyone? 69 00:12:44.400 --> 00:12:47.880 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Christian Harden and it's actually just now joining as well. Right. 70 00:12:49.710 --> 00:12:51.420 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Board Member Harden and welcome. Thank you. 71 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.540 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Thank you. Sorry, I had some technical difficulties. 72 00:12:55.980 --> 00:13:01.440 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Okay, now that I've introduced. Let me continue reading the instructions for the meeting. The agenda for this meeting can be viewed and downloaded from the coj website by navigating to DIA.COJ.NET when the meeting is concluded the recorded version, maybe access by emailing rmezini@coj.net. The public comment period occurs at the beginning of each agenda item all public comments should pretend only to the items on the agenda and are limited strictly to three minutes and duration. Individuals who are unable to access the meeting or wish to submit their comments in advance may do so by submitting their comments via email to rmezini@cojnet, with the title. Public comment public comments submitted by email must be received no later than 2:05pm on August 20 2020. Public comments submitted by email will be submitted into the record during the public comment portion of the meeting. Individuals attending the meeting by computer or telephone will be given an opportunity to comment, one at a time and in an orderly fashion upon recognition by the meeting host. That being said, I'd like to move on in our agenda. First item, item A is the approval of the July 9 2020 DDRB be a regular meeting minutes 80 00:14:34.380 --> 00:14:36.450 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Do we have any comment on those meeting minutes 81 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.580 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Okay. Hearing none. Do we have a motion to approve. 82 00:14:43.020 --> 00:14:43.800 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Motion to approve. 83 00:14:44.760 --> 00:14:47.490 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): a motion to approve by a board member Schilling. Do we have a second 84 00:14:48.570 --> 00:14:51.720 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Second by Mr Loretta. Mr. Loretta, you're on mute. 85 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:52.650 Board Member Loretta, Second 86 00:14:54.060 --> 00:14:56.100 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): All those in favor please say aye. 87 00:14:56.790 --> 00:14:57.780 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 88 00:14:57.840 --> 00:14:59.490 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 89 00:15:00.300 --> 00:15:02.070 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Any opposed say nay. 90 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:10.710 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Wonderful. The motion carries. And we have approved meeting minutes from the July 9 2020 DDRB be meeting. I'd like to move to the next agenda item which will be DDRB 2020-13 Park Street Road Diet.The applicant will be Will Lyon and I'd like to ask staff to deliver their report. 93 00:15:31.650 --> 00:15:40.410 Lori Radcliffe-Meyers DIA staff: I thank you, chairman Lee. My name is Lori Ratcliffe-Myers with the Downtown Investment Authority, and I will be presenting an overview of DDRB the application. The Park Street road diet DDRB application 2020-13 seeks approval for the proposed Park Street road diet. The Downtown Investment Authority commissioned a study that identifies Park Street as a roadway corridor in the Brooklyn neighborhood where improvements could initiate a dynamic revitalization process. Improvements identified by the study team included lowering the speed limit greater bicycle accommodations pedestrian accommodations and parking accommodations. Prosser is working with the DIA and the city of Jacksonville to develop a complete street concept that maintains the spirit and functionality of the findings of the DIA commissioned study can be constructed within the budget of 2.2 million avoidance right of way acquisition and maintains the downtown overlays zone standards. Based on the foregoing the downtown development review board staff supports approval of DDRB the application 2020-13. This includes staff summation staff is available for questions. Thank you. 101 00:16:59.400 --> 00:17:07.830 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Mrs. Myers. I appreciate that. I like to ask the applicant to go ahead and present the project is Will Lyon available? 102 00:17:13.350 --> 00:17:19.260 Will Lyon: Yes, I'm here, and I have Shawn Bliss with me as well. Shawn the partner firm from Prosser 104 00:17:22.590 --> 00:17:26.160 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): And I have great when you're introducing yourselves would You please read your name and give your address. Thank you. 105 00:17:28.020 --> 00:17:32.430 Will Lyon: The address? My home address or office address? 106 00:17:33.780 --> 00:17:37.680 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Which ever address you would like to put into the record. Okay. 107 00:17:38.130 --> 00:17:42.570 Will Lyon: I am William L-y-o-n, singular, 13901 Sutton Park Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, 32224, Suite 200. Shawn Bliss Prosser, 13901 Sutton Park Drive, Suite 200 Jacksonville 32224 113 00:18:12.330 --> 00:18:17.730 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. Will you be presenting by screen or Miss Mezini, are you going to be presenting on their behalf? 114 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.440 Will Lyon: Will be presenting but screen. Wonderful. Go ahead. 115 00:18:39.750 --> 00:18:40.830 Will Lyon: Can everyone see the screen. 116 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:45.720 Will Lyon: Awesome. Yes. Yes. Good. 117 00:18:46.800 --> 00:18:53.910 Will Lyon: Good afternoon, everybody. Great to see some of your all of your faces. But some of you. Believe it or not, I haven't seen in quite a while, so I'm excited to see some of you. So that's fantastic. Obviously, we're here to talk, talk about Park Street. A little background. This has been a project. It's five years in the making. It's been quite a process to go from The study phase through conceptual design, and here we are presenting you this document, and we're ready to advance the construction documents accordingly. It's been a robust process many stakeholders involved; obviously, it's a project led by the city of Jacksonville and the DIA. It's been funded by that group. It's been completely lead in terms of the vetting, and even in terms of this outcome that we're going to speak with you, and I assume you've had the opportunity to review. One of the things that we want to talk about is very important because, you know, previously. There was a consultant that was engaged. By the DIA to develop a study for Park Street and that study included. I'll show you a map here in a minute that study included the area we talked about. And then Prosser was engaged to advance that study essentially to a point where we have developed 60% construction drawings and part of that process, we felt like required some integration. That is the report that we sent over that is actually what we're looking at on the screen, we've coined this the integration report, essentially what it does is it integrates the study that was done previously by the consultant With the work that we recently completed in terms of the construction documents. And in doing that, we develop three primary goals that we felt bridged the gap or gave us credence or at least a baseline of design. The first one was obviously to analyze all the aspects of that study. And apply them appropriately to Park Street. There was a host of things that were listed in there, this whole notion of walkability. The notion of creating a livable space, a place it's supported commerce and even more importantly, you know, a place that promoted, we are allowed for proper any vehicular fishing circulation, but allowed a certain level of priority to pedestrians and cyclists and we'll, we'll talk about that in greater length today. And that was very important. What that took was for us to look hard at the typical Section that was proposed previously and make sure that we applied the essential tenants of that typical Section among the other things that are required in terms of goals and objectives by the DIA so that we could create the right kind of project, you know that right kind of projects met a process that required us to look hard at the street, but also at the adjacent property owners. There was an extensive discussion with folks proposing to do development along the corridor and those that are currently, you know, believe it or not, in progress. So a great thing there. And then the last thing, this whole notion of a complete street. I think we all know what an entire Street is. It's very much along the lines of creating a walkable, livable Supportive space for business where pedestrians and vehicles and cyclists all work together to create a great experience. And to be honest, one that's efficient and then supports the objectives of commerce. I think we've all seen these goals. These are the seven goals that the DIA has for Community revised revitalization. We have to take all of these goals taken all of these goals. It expanded them in a way that allowed us to create the conceptual design and maintain the goals in particular goal number for this improve walkability bike-ability connectivity. This is part of a larger project that's envisioned show you a map on that in a minute, as well. But again, giving a certain level of priority and preference to cyclists and pedestrians was extremely important. So Brooklyn, as you all know, is experiencing a renaissance. For quite a while, it's been doing that a lot of things going on over there and Supporting the notion of mixed-use is again part of being a complete street. And one of the things that I think is extremely important to get across. We talked with Local landholders of the landholders along the corridor, some of which are advancing their vision already. We wanted to make sure again to talk about priority to the pedestrian priority to the cyclists. Still, there was also a strong preference to allow for these areas along the road the sidewalks, essentially, to allow for St cafes to allow for people to be able to traverse the corridor, but also to be able to accommodate folks that are just sitting or lounging or waiting in line to to go to a restaurant. Hopefully, we can do that Soon, but even to that point, that whole notion of doing that soon. I think it's appropriate even to consider the widening of the the the pedestrian ways the sidewalk in particular. Even if social distancing stays with us for a while. I wouldn't say that we consider that just based on the timing of this because We were working on this before cove it, but we have talked about it and thought about it throughout the process after that. So I think that's an essential aspect of this as well. As far as the corridor itself. If you can see my cursor. This is Park Street, and, you know, we all know that this is a critical link between downtown that connective tissue between downtown and Riverside. Our project from this point here, our project is forest and connects up to the emerald necklace there. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Will, and he's going to give you much more significant information. Thank you very much. JOHN Thank you, everyone Will Lyon from Prosser again. I want to talk a little bit about the existing conditions for part three, some of the things that we're working on one aspect of this project. Was that we needed to maintain the current right away. There was an acquisition. That was allowed as a part of this project. It wasn't funded. Also, right away, an acquisition could have an adverse impact on adjacent buildings and so Looking at the existing code or the existing core doors for lanes for 12-foot lanes. It's 40 at that only leaves the 2016 sidewalk on either side. There's a lot of connected sidewalk food, but it's not in the best condition. There's sidewalk adjacent to the road or to Jason to the utility strip adjacent to it or things like that. So there's some Fearing and what the typical section looks like. We also have a lot of Philby that have zero lot lines and rankings right away. And then there's a lot of utility that we had to work with as well, some overhead utilities and underground utility things that we had to navigate through this quarter or When we started looking at the design of this project we had Dan Burton aren't the day of burden is Still on our team, not at these filters on the design team Dan is the father of complete streets and pioneered the whole concept of complete streets. Several decades ago. And so he wasn't a valuable asset to this. Looking at the Originally commissioned study's objectives that led us to this design project and then looking at the constraints within the chord or that we had. We had identified the six objectives and that Objectives are real simple illuminating traveling prioritize bicycle mpetitors every vehicle, make sure that we maintain the transit on the core door. And then there's also some additional transit that's happening. Providing shade trees, which is important with Moving the curved line and having a more significant sidewalk because it allows us to get out of conflict with utilities and things like that to provide the type of shape that would like to Provide continuity to Jason projects, specifically to major pedestrian-oriented projects that are happening in the quarter or acquits Creek and the emerald necklace, but also the BRT project that's happening. Jackson Park and then also provide parking before. The typical section that we came up with was bringing in the curved line reducing the traveling for to 10 foot traveling having parking on-street parking, and then we could have an excellent complete street typical section. So with them. The traveling so instead of having for both the trend lines will take 10 foot traveling; this is appropriate within the context of complete streets in this type of core door. The next we're going to prioritize bicyclists. 173 00:28:37.530 --> 00:28:38.400 Will Lyon: Will Lyon: I can talk about this. Kennelly, your slide, but we looked at a lot of different things. A case study of thing, and we decided that given The framework that Shawn just talked about really providing a safe space. The wise district sidewalk maintaining pedestrian period managerial within the guidelines of the DDR be the priority shares be a really important way to accommodate bicyclists on the score doors. But with priority shares, you did some other things to hold in that talking about geometry horizontal geometry and things like that where you get to do this. We prioritize pedestrians, so we have throughout the whole board or Ustream past the range from 12 to 20 feet. And so it's a really, really high pedestrian area that you can walkthrough, we're going to be able to provide shade resolve that. We've got large shade trees and small shade trees and created models they fit well within that vision. They also are going to be funded by trees on, so that's good. So it's a really collaborative effort there. We have transit stops on the corner that we're maintaining, and we ought to be. It sucks to the GTA already worked out. Now we will be accommodating. And we've been coordinating with that project. They have our plans. Their design consultant has are playing Who's working with the GTA, and our plans reflected the width and requirements that they had on their points; if it's already been constructed for already been bit it's not been constructed. As I mentioned, the two projects that were an interesting voice, Creek. When I first started this project. Had a little variability as to which way they could go, and they're looking at the planning elements that their project and then the model file was on the Emerald trail is pretty well defined. And what we were able to do within the last little section. This project accommodates all parties all situations and really provides night connectivity through that last verse of the court or to get from Park Street to either the trail. So it's a really nice combination there. And then last but not least we have parking for adjacent businesses. And things like that that we've accommodated plan set. So one of the things about providing priority shares versus some other type of facility is seeing if that's the right treatment. If there's another kind of documentation that leads us to that. We looked at Jacksonville's city by master planning to bike says master plan identified four types of Like facilities on this board, or that would be appropriate. The four types for by claims buffered by plans shares and Priority shares The TJ iPad by master plan also had a section of Park Street, specifically the five points that are recommended Priority shared on page one of the master plans. The information that they identified in the headmaster plan that made priorities share the right treatment is the same. Information that we envisioned happening with development in this section Park Street specifically small Retail, restaurant. Restaurant volume high turnover street parking and then our traffic will be significantly less than a BT that's rejected on that section of Park Street in the future. So there's a case study that we looked at in West Palm Beach. That was very similar to, and These are very similar treatment priorities for 10 for traveling on-street parking lot, and it's a big success. And so that was definitely one of the things that really motivated us to go down this direction. An interesting thing that we were able to do by bringing in the curved line. And then we also Did a signal Warren analysis of the corridor were able to remove three the signals. According to signal or analysis and coordinate that with City gestures of traffic. Doing that could eliminate some of the overhead power and its own accord, or we're going to put back in lighting, but it will be underground power for the lighting. And by doing that, real to have a lot more shade trees and things and eliminate overhead utility conflict. So that was pretty good. We are also proposing many roundabouts on the board or in replacement of the signals. These signals are not good sections that were previously signal if they're not going to go from civilization control the to stock control, they're going to go to a mini-roundabout. The mini-roundabout are designed so that it's uncomfortable for the vehicle to drive over the middle of around about it would be better for them to follow around. However, if a truck needed to drive through and gain access, they would still do it. Ours is going to be very similar to that which you see on the screen without the raid pointing in the middle because we just didn't have the room in the right way to be able to accommodate that. Dan really pushed and thought it was very clever was eliminating the center stripe on the court or Me GTD doesn't require it with the traffic volumes that we have on this court or the projected traffic licenses quarter. So it was a really nice solution and what it does. Is it really changes the context of the way the driver proceeds to read it and makes the driver more aware of their surroundings and Drive slower so This combination of thing so far? It's called the Lord driver awareness, causing the drivers to have to Drive slower speeds. We can say for speed. And it means that Bicycle and Pedestrian have apparently a safer facility that they can use, and it prioritizes their safety over throughput volume throughput on this quarter. Two other treatments that we did with the room. The signals and with the mini-roundabout is we included this she came on the project out that arrays mid-block crossing that we were, we think there's going to be A lot of Pedestrian movement across Park Street that not as an intersection So those two things also drive down the speed. You can make the target feet on this road, very, very low. Throughout the project, we've met many entities we've obviously been working with the city of Jacksonville is projects. Have managed as Sean mentioned both to da comes to calculus minor project manager for the city got role is my piano today. We also worked with City tactical planning. We've worked with the Jacksonville traffic. So your Jacksonville state coordinator, all of those entities have any input on this plan. We've worked with the VA extensively on this project as well. We've worked with the GTA and coordinated to be Artesia. We've also coordinated with St. Johns River Water Management District. And lastly, we're coordinated with the pack and have approval from the back. One of the interesting things Or have not approved that I get support from the fact that one of the interesting things about the conversation with Deepak is that we could integrate it into a plan that I liked. One of our senior planners on those projects things might cool if you like that as well. It could be a cyclist and an avid cyclist. Is there's like pull off next to the bike parking and so we eliminated the curb near the Vikram and made a place for bicyclists who are writing, and the road can pull up to the road bullet to the bike. Stalls could lock the bike up, walk around,enjoy the cafes, and the retail get back. Also, if they're riding their bike to the Emerald trail or three requests Creek, they can come off. Get come off of the trail, and they could use. There's a section of purity test, or they could use the prior to sharing, And then they can have this nice integration. So it's not only done we have a desk or a vehicle parking bike bicycle parking as well that highlights that convenience. As Sean mentioned, there is a lot of consensus-building with the Jason property owners and the DJ project. And with that, I'd like to show you quickly go through the concept that we delivered. Can you still see my screen? Can you see the content? Yes. Okay, perfect. Some of these sometimes it's more challenging is only the window screen. Here's the concept that we have to come from forestry we narrow down interrupt will 237 00:38:19.770 --> 00:38:23.880 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): All I can see is the last PowerPoint slide of the 238 00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:29.910 Will Lyon: Presentation. Okay, that's okay. That's one second. I'll fix that. 239 00:38:40.050 --> 00:38:41.550 Will Lyon: You see the graphic now. 240 00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:43.170 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): We can see it now. 241 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.390 Will Lyon: Perfect, thank you, Trevor. So coming from forestry right up to Christ, we go From three links to two Were able to on the other side of forestry and all the lane draw We've done some secret analysis that intersection and heavy movement there is the northbound westbound left turn so that inside lane turns to a left firmly in the right thing is it through. Right. And then we maintain the same number of lanes leaving chorus Street. Today we have one lane coming in. There's also something that's not shown in this plan that is in our construction drawings, where we have a triple canopy triple tree canopy is we're entering in this corridor. And if we did that. That was another Dan Burton recommendation, and it was really cute drivers into a change of type of roadway function and classification as they come up with for three, four streets wide right away a lot of pavement. A lot of Vehicle oriented feel and then when they turn from forest on the Park or when they're on Park, and they go through for it having these sets of trees. Really says oh wait, this is a lot different. And it gives the driver of visual cue to think, okay, I need to slow down. I need to see what's going on. So that's nice. Moving on, we started with to get the priorities, Sharon; we have the mini-roundabout. This is where the chicane started credit for price Street. And as she came because we have Some on-street parking. It's a pedestrian facility. All of these stars and say like parking there are opportunities where we have the curve lowered so bicyclists can pull up to the bike rack and Park and get out and Walker, enjoy the amenity after we go through doors three, we should come back down all maintaining to 10 foot traveling . 257 00:41:01.590 --> 00:41:02.730 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Hey, Trevor 258 00:41:03.510 --> 00:41:04.410 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): As a quick question. 259 00:41:04.650 --> 00:41:05.220 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Was going through 260 00:41:05.640 --> 00:41:06.180 Will Lyon: Good job. 261 00:41:06.630 --> 00:41:18.810 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Yes sir, will my question is I've got the construction plans you guys 6% construction plans you provided they don't seem like they're aligning with these concepts. Specifically, like the front entry, it's got it's lined with palm trees at Forest and and it's I mean, am I missing something or 264 00:41:33.630 --> 00:41:42.510 Will Lyon: Well, Joe, That's a good question. Let me show you that we didn't actually on the content. We didn't show the tree planting. We didn't have that worked out. The nature of the right away constrain the curve on restraints and the traveling required to make that forest intersection still function and acceptable level for the Jacksonville traffic required And some lanes and queuing and things. And the only thing that we could really fit in at the Park Street section leg of that force your section, we're pawns with the planning area that we had while maintaining that Pedestrian with and we have some great marbles on the side, I think. But then after that, we go to the ups and the great marvelous,and that's all of the things here,and Joe That's This is Sean. So I think you're referencing this area here; that's what will is talking about earlier. And we replace. I know that we have Yeah, and that's just that's that gateway or the announcement or transition from the rug section say to the west or plan West Beyond forest to this section that we're talking about here, and I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. That is the only real Deviation, other than some maybe a few little details sculpture and things of this between the concept that you're looking at. Now, and 16% CDs. The other construction wrong. Yeah. The other or you got it. 273 00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:12.570 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Okay. Yeah. No, I understand. I just wanted to Ask that question. Thank you. 274 00:43:13.680 --> 00:43:15.540 Will Lyon: Okay, thank you very much. Back here, just as prize coming into Jackson Street, we're going to have to raise the bar crossing. This is also the part where we have the integration between the trail. Of course, Creek is still working through their projects, but this is an alternative for them to come in, and then this is the connection between the McCoys freak in model mile trails thought process being there is that if you're with your family and you're riding. Your bicycle as a group on an isolated trail like McCoy's Creek providing a shared us path to get to the model file would provide a much more consistent theme between those two projects with an interface. And then also, we already mentioned around about the crosswalk is an opportunity to transition from the priority shares to the Shared use that one of the another great comments that came from the back was they requested that we make. This whole radius flat to that when the pedestrians with a pirate shirt, but we've come through and they want to get onto the shoes that there's no lips. So we were able to accommodate that, which is really nice. And we also have that we evaluate this tree explaining psychic distance, which we did. And we were able to make all that work. So a couple of those things that we address for them and then 60% drawing And then going down to part three, we tie into the model, while we have another horizontal deflection and realignment going into the model. While many chicanes, if you will. This intersection signal on and really interfaces nicely with the model mile. So that's the concept. I have a 60% drawing, and I'm willing to answer questions on those, by all means, but it's 90 something pages. I don't think that it would be beneficial for beautiful what you said. With that, I don't have any warm different condition. So we're over there. Question. 286 00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:32.130 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you very much. 287 00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:33.360 Will Lyon: will appreciate that. 288 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:39.000 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): I'd like to before we begin with BOARD COMMENTS open it up to public comments. Ina Or Lori, could you help me out of there any 290 00:45:45.450 --> 00:45:56.430 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Or so right now I don't see any hands raised. However, I do have a public comment that was submitted via email from Nancy Powell. So I'm going to read that into the record. For the Park Street road diet. She says the scene at Jacksonville is in support of the Park Street road diet. We applaud the effort to slow traffic down and create more pedestrian-friendly streets, which Brooklyn needs. We request that provisions be made for large shade trees for there to be no palm trees that provie no shade and high maintenance. The shade is critical to pedestrian comfort and also lowers the urban heat index by 20 degrees or more. We also hope to see a road diet on Riverside Avenue, which was presented several years ago, but we have not heard anything recently and comment. 297 00:46:33.870 --> 00:46:36.060 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you very much. Appreciate that. 298 00:46:36.450 --> 00:46:38.340 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): I'd like to move on to A BOARD COMMENTS, if we can, and I'll call out the board member and allow them to have some time to to address the applicant. Let's start with board member harden. 300 00:46:58.140 --> 00:46:58.560 Will Lyon: Okay. 301 00:46:59.250 --> 00:47:01.440 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): We'll move on to board member, Allan. 302 00:47:10.770 --> 00:47:12.690 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Know board member of harden is back and ready to go. 30 00:47:13.290 --> 00:47:16.290 Will Lyon: Okay, we'll go back up to the board member harden. Thank you very 304 00:47:16.290 --> 00:47:18.150 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Much. Sorry about that. 306 00:47:21.870 --> 00:47:30.750 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Yeah, I was going to comment that I had a chance to talk With the staff on this. And they answered alot of questions and I was able to reference back to some of the earlier notes from the original Presentation, and I Do not have any comments, I think It looks great. I think it's something that We should go ahead and get going on. I know this is something that we've talked about for a couple of years, and it's waiting to unlock the development Quarter over here for more growth. So we don't want to be a Burden that I think this is will do a lot for that. That road is in dire need of attention,so excited to see this happen. 318 00:47:55.890 --> 00:47:58.290 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you for being a board member, Alan. 319 00:48:00.090 --> 00:48:02.340 Brent Allen (DDRB Board): Thank you, Chairman Lee. Can you hear me. 320 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:21.900 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Yes, sir. Thank you. Brent Allen (DDRB Board): I think it I echo those comments as well from Board Member Harden. I think it's a much needed project. It's going to spur some great development around that area. I am also glad to see that we're going to be using some shade trees there. And no comments. Other than that. Thank you. 322 00:48:26.490 --> 00:48:26.970 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. about board member Durden To Unmute 326 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:42.120 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Okay. Can you hear me. 327 00:48:42.630 --> 00:48:43.050 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Yes. 328 00:48:43.560 --> 00:49:00.150 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Okay, great. Thank you very much. I think the presentation was very good. I don't know that I was on the DDRB when this was first presented; I may have been part of the DIA when it was funded. I'm not positive. But it is the first chance I can recall that I've had a chance to review it or see it. I'm excited about the progress that's been made. I do have a couple of questions. On the landscaping. I heard Will say that all the trees that we see on these Conceptual plans that it's a mix of crape myrtle and up oaks and that's with the exception, I gather that what you're going to have to do on for street is going to be palms, but Or at that intersection, but could you get let us know or through the chair to will. What is the breakdown, if you will, the ratio between oaks and crape myrtle because there's a big difference when it comes to the shade that's provided by those? 334 00:50:00.420 --> 00:50:01.500 Will Lyon: Okay, by answered. 336 00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:03.660 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Yes. 337 00:50:05.370 --> 00:50:06.210 Will Lyon: Um, The ratio i think it's I honestly I don't know off my head. I think it's half and half, roughly 50/50. What the constraints. The only time I can tell. I can tell you that the only time that we use crape myrtle was when we had constraints with either all The underground utilities or Austin also see God or vertical, and we otherwise. So generally speaking, we planted everywhere. We could, and then we couldn't plant an oak trees crape myrtle. Bringing in the curved line, gave us a really good opportunity to Avoid some of those complexes. And one of the things that I mentioned. Before one of our planners, like the architects, my cooler is wround one of the things that he came up with is really great. It Was using the divider between the parking, and an opportunity to fly the center of the oak tree a little closer away from the utilities. and we didn't have to put a crape myrtle there we can put it out of things like that. So really, We were focused on providing as much as possible. And I think it's about 50/50 I'm not 100% sure. 347 00:51:25.650 --> 00:51:26.640 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Okay, well, you said Thank you for that response. You said the magic words, as far as I'm concerned, that we're and if you could keep it at least 50/50 and maybe even increase. If you can, wherever you can. To make the oaks, your, your primary goal, and I heard you say that, and I think that's important. The second question I've got is about the transit, and I did not see, and I'm sure there's a proper name for this, but I did not see cutouts for buses to be able to You know, pull over out of the travel lanes. And I wondered if you guys could tell us That explains that to us a little bit because with a two-lane road and as much As I anticipated. I guess. If you will, anticipated bus traffic and utilization in this area, I'm somewhat concerned about the backlog or the backup that could occur without the cutouts. Could you talk about that and explain to us because it doesn't. I couldn't see those on the drawings; admittedly, I didn't look at all the Plans' 91 pages. But I noticed on these that you presented that There aren't any of those. From an I see those in a lot of places, it seems like an amenity that we should try to have. If possible, could you speak to that Will. 365 00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:31.650 Will Lyon: I would love to. And I think that's a great question. So there are two things. It would be a lot of thought that The first thing is, is the bus full of definitely increased throughput along with the board or for the vehicle. That's the reason that they have a philosophy that is Really to increase throughput and increase volume. So the second thing when you have a buffalo oftentimes it can create a situation where there's conflicts and things like that with pedestrians walking in front of the bus and going to call history of the things that when you have the bug in the roadway and the vehicles behind it. You have to stop. So the vehicle on the bus at the top and have to wait for either a clear path to go around the bus. We're just waiting for the bus to go again. In an effort to prioritize pedestrian over vehicle. We decided the team that it wasn't beneficial to the pedestrians to take away to Tennessee for a button. Pull off from the pedestrian path to give the vehicle. Five. Second, let's travel time on the cord or So really the having the bus. On a lighting and onboarding from the roadway. Gives us two things. The first thing that it does is it helps us maintain The pedestrian space that we're trying to do to prioritize pedestrians on the corridor. And the second thing that it does is it work to the traffic on the measure to really ensure that the speeds that are going or slow By by not having centerline striping which is really beneficial. It gives vehicles in low volume time off peak hours, the ability to go around the bus. unimpeded and safely. So it gives them the ability to go around when there's not volume in the morning rush hour in the afternoon rush hour. So those times in between, but otherwise it's used as a tracker calming measure to help ensure that the phases flow state speed to maintain And also we made sure that we were so prioritizing pedestrians over vehicular throughput. 380 00:55:55.140 --> 00:56:04.980 brenna durden (DDRB Board): That's a great answer. And I definitely understand now why you chose to not include those so the only other question I've got. Mr. Chairman, is really for staff, and I think it's her staff, and that is that I see that this is a request for final approval and I'm just wondering is that Is that necessary and does that mean that we will not have an opportunity to see maybe the 80 or the 90% plans and I'm just wondering what the, what the meaning of the final or the impact of if we give final approval today. What does that mean as far as our ability to review in the future. And I'll with that. That that's the end of my comments. Thank you. 386 00:57:00.780 --> 00:57:02.280 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. 387 00:57:02.940 --> 00:57:05.430 GParola: A board of directors and Chairman. I can answer that, if you'd like. 388 00:57:05.550 --> 00:57:07.020 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): A miss from Parola, please do. 389 00:57:07.500 --> 00:57:12.750 GParola: Thank you, our reasoning was because the DDRB saw the conceptual and had a whole lot of public input and adds during the initial design, way back when, when Pond did it. So in our minds that conceptual had been blessed already through that study. And this was taking it through final I don't see a problem and I look to the consultant to nod their heads, and I think I'd speak for Public Works on this as well, that if we took this back to you at 90%. I don't think that that's an issue. It would just be You know it'd be for more of an informational item then than anything else. But if it's this boards desire to be kept kept along prior to BID documents, if the consultants okay with it. I think we staff be more than happy to do that. 395 00:58:09.450 --> 00:58:09.930 Will Lyon: Guy, speaking on behalf of Prosser we'd be more than happy to present final plans to the DDRB be like 90% plan. The only Caveat maybe to the Jacksonville and the DIA decided to pursue this project was the design build project. There may be some challenges. Their scheduler procurement, things like that. So those are just have to be identified and RFP process. But as far as we're concerned, if we take the design to final which we would love to do, we would be more than happy to presenting into the PDF Brenna Durden (DDRB Board): Mr. Chairman, this is Brenna, if I think that would be, you know, Helpful, it would allow us to see what the at 90% I understand that there's not going to be a lot of, um, You know ability to to change much, obviously, but it would give us you know there are always a few things like, you know, things that Allow us to maybe tweak here tweak their very minor things but um I think it would be if it's possible guy if it's possible. I think that it would be 406 00:59:34.650 --> 00:59:35.130 GParola: Absolutely. 407 00:59:37.260 --> 00:59:38.430 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you Board Member Durden. 408 00:59:39.090 --> 00:59:48.360 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Mr Parola will work on trying to get the potential for a 90% review by by this board after this meeting. 410 00:59:50.790 --> 00:59:54.060 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Let's move on to additional comments. How about Board Member Loretta 411 00:59:56.340 --> 00:59:56.910 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Thank you. You know, I reviewed the plan and the the 60% plans. So I think everything looks really good. I commend that we worked on the design and didn't just completely pay attention to the forefoot furnishing landscape zone and went beyond that. So that way, our plant material could actually grow. And so I appreciate that we will have larger landscape airlines for the live oaks to to grow. I think that's very critical. Overall I'm very happy with the project as you designed it. I'm a little worried about the many round about. They haven't been very successful in Jacksonville Beach and I think you're going to kind of do a similar one to maybe what was done in Jacksonville Beach and so that concerns me a little bit. But, but, you know, you're the engineer, so you'll take the liability on that basically But beyond that, I've got no other further questions. 422 01:01:04.650 --> 01:01:07.500 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. Remember, Loretta, how about board members showing 423 01:01:08.970 --> 01:01:20.070 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And just to start out to share that, you know, thank you for the presentation and fully, fully in support of this project and I think similar to Mr Loretta what what I was going to share just from a concern standpoint, and maybe spin it into a question is, you know, one of the one of the concerns I have is on on the lane edge wits. In the parking lane with I knew the parking lane at seven feet. A lot of times when we when we're going to the seven foot parking lane with there's a gutter one foot gutter pan so you actually get eight feet. And I know and I ran down and check like my my full size pickup truck is seven feet nine inches wide. So if I were to park there my mirror is going to be hanging into the traveling So part of that and and I know that I'm want just one Person commenting Out of probably hundreds Of people that have been involved in this process. So, so I was going to ask is, maybe you will and Sean, you could take maybe another minute or two. And maybe expand on some of the, the research and the feedback and the thoughts that y'all have had to arrive at the the 10 foot lane when in the seven foot Parking parking lane with also knowing that it looks like this is a header curb and not not traditional curve and gutter. So y'all won't have, you know, a typical gutter out there if maybe you could expand on that for us through through the chair. 433 01:02:49.410 --> 01:02:51.810 Will Lyon: Thank you very much. Good to see you, Bill. 434 01:02:53.640 --> 01:02:54.000 Will Lyon: We did two things. The first The content, the content classification, if you will, when you're thinking about the context trends and The type of language and things that would be apply even if you're looking at doing the criteria for this type of road 10 foot language is acceptable. You're right. We don't have a gutter. One of the reasons why we don't have a gutter is we didn't want to sacrifice. That one and a half the headspace we wanted to have that turned down at her her to give us a littl One of the only thing I would say that on the parking the parking little. It is a seven foot parking space, but it's a little different. If you look at the plan. We don't. Oftentimes on the back of the parking stall adjacent to the walkway. We don't have a curve. It's a flat kind of parking from the traveling up and then we have what we ended up doing is putting Planting and putting bike parking putting benches waste receptacles things like that in this space and integrated back to limit where the cars get go, but it gives them a little more freedom than a defined Valley curve for phase seven feet. So I think that the community there. Get seven feet is tight but seven feet often meet to see the Jacksonville code for specifically downtown and this system for barking to seven seats within code. It is, I agree with you on that. But we were we really tried to soften all of the grade within the public right away and eliminate a lot of these Sharp vertical faces so that we could have some flexibility with some of these things so that that's the concept of a template length. I'm extremely comfortable with the seven foot foot parking. I agree. It's, it's within code. It is a little tight. But I think that what we did with the treatment behind mall parking really provide that extra six inches eight inches. That would be needed to make it much more comfortable. Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Okay, good. Yeah. And, and thank you for the the extract explanation. And again, my, my concern would be especially knowing that it sounds like they're, you know, we may be planning and there may already be a bus route running up and down this road. That we're going to put our bus drivers into difficult positions and CC high incidence of mirror clips and mirrors getting getting hit on the court or so. But again, I recognize the y'all have many years and the planning and putting this together and you know certainly trust and yells recommendation on that. So say thank you, Mr. Chairman, that, that, that was the only comment that I had. And thank you. 449 01:05:51.510 --> 01:05:57.450 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. Really appreciate that, thank you for the response will let's move on to board member Davison 450 01:05:58.380 --> 01:06:01.710 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): Yeah, nice thoughtful presentation shot and well I was wondering if you could zoom in on an interstates intersection, you've got, say the Jackson and Park Street. Could you. Could you just describe how you're doing the material. And how it's separated and Can you just get into a little more definition. 455 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:37.680 Will Lyon: I can. I would love to that. That's actually a great question. I want to give you just a little context. And then I'll pass it off to me. They really get into the detail. So when we originally looked at this project. After this conceptual phase, we had a lot of stand concrete, a lot of bands and things like that. We spoke to Guy. We decided in coordination with guide that we would, we would not be doing pavers The papers are just a real maintenance issue for downtown and not really something that could Be viable long term. So then what we started doing is going through finished different types of finished concrete though we have Various types of concrete finishes that separates the different spaces between bicyclist and pedestrians, but we also have had mixtures of the concrete and other things for changing color. And so to talk about that. I mean, best option. Yeah. Hey, Craig, or to the chair. Sorry. So most of this that you see, obviously the road asphalt. Most of it is at least within the road section asphalt even around around the round about. But then Beyond that, we transition to in this graphic is a little bit old we've we've we've gone through a cost analysis that we've revised accordingly we are still maintaining a differentiation of pavement. Through pattern and scoring and things like that. But everything else is a mixture of treated sandblasted or scored concrete. So what you see in here as papers and this sketch Based on price and based on budget beyond this concept has Transition. Transition to a a scored concrete scenario or we're trying to create some differentiation say even in this area would be a sandblasted situation so It's hard to discuss that in detail here, I think it is referencing the 60% drawing But what we're trying to do is to create a pedestrian interface that creates a vibrant pattern that is comprised of scored concrete textured concrete and also marking that accordingly, where we have these crosswalk. And I also just add one more thing as well again. The first week of October. We're going to have rendering That are going to be updating the finishes that we have in our plan set 60% plant that and it'll be very Realistic rendering. We're going to have three renderings that we're going to work with the DA and developing and those renderings will Really show exactly what the finishes are gonna look like in adult conditions. Yeah, we're modeling and right now in 3D Studio. So it'll be Much more descriptive view. 475 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:49.140 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): I guess I might comment. In perhaps you're being driven by the sidewalk design guidelines of the city of Jacksonville. My comment is in Jacksonville, you know, in downtown you we've gotten into this. Let's do banding whether it's perpendicular, whether it's striped With this whole slew of colors and different materials and, you know, coming up with patterns and things like that are all fine when you've got A perfect rhythm of trees and buildings and lights, but that never happens. So what we end up with is just skits a frantic Materials that are colliding together it intersections. And then along as well, like you know it all works well. And then you've got a curb cut for a street or I mean a driveway. And I guess I would my suggestion would be to keep it simple, instead of doing bands and stripes deal with deal with the deal with large fields. Where if if a rhythm is interrupted. It doesn't matter. And I mean, you can see that on Bay Street, all the way through downtown and we've got Belgian block in the center of the you know the circles, and then we get It's just a lot of materials with a lot of geometry that really don't make a lot of sense. And I've just this is an opportunity to perhaps clean that up. 484 01:11:21.690 --> 01:11:22.140 Will Lyon: I think that's Great. And I think that that I'm trying to find that Way in the heartbeat plants. Oh there. There's the details associated with some of the work that we're doing. Oh my goodness, I'm sorry. So can you did my screen change to the point, it did. Okay. So yeah, all of that banding that you saw has been traded for very simple Field of various really to textures of concrete and you can see there on the right, especially the two detailed one of the upper right and one kind of mid right That's essentially the pattern. There's, there's really no rhythm. These rhythms are agnostic to the placement of trees and furniture. It's just a continuous Band or a continuous walkway of alternating bands that just are just repeated throughout the cord or Function. So in the space between the tree. There's maybe one type of Pattern or something like that or driveways and things like that. So you're nothing to do with Your comment and spot on, you know, we were initially generated those concepts we were keeping the the the guidelines in mind. And luckily, Those things the ball to a point where we could just, you know, almost just, I hate to use the word arbitrary, but just create a pattern that that just continues all the way down the court or and is essentially unchanged based on what's happening along its periphery, and you can see that this is the construction drawings on this thing. Hard to get going on the same section that we had a graphic. 498 01:13:12.510 --> 01:13:13.800 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): In your, for your kind of You're dropping the curbs. At the intersections where it's flushed out. Is that correct, 501 01:13:20.790 --> 01:13:23.370 Will Lyon: We're doing about a dip intersections with typically 502 01:13:26.280 --> 01:13:29.220 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): We caught my comment is, I'm glad to see that. You know, just less carbon gutter, the better in my opinion. Throughout but you know i think it's it's it's a great project you guys done a nice job. I just, I just wanted to throw caution to You know when I see when I see that intersection. I see seven or eight patterns and colors and, you know, and it it's it's it's confusing to me. And I think just the strength. It would be much stronger if you could almost eliminate some of that and just just work with strong fields of material. It's a great project and I appreciate your time. Thank you. 508 01:14:13.950 --> 01:14:15.090 Will Lyon: Sir, thank you very much. 509 01:14:18.390 --> 01:14:26.670 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. BOARD MEMBER DAVIS, and I appreciate those comments and I'll wrap us up by echoing what board member Davidson said, I totally agree. With his analysis and his approach, even in this one diagram, you see on the right side of the street. We've got what looks like brick and beige and then on the left side we've got the kind of the lighter grace and full on banding. So I think the construction drawing that you showed help clarify quite a bit of that. And I appreciate that very much. Do we have any other comments from the Board and if not, I'll be looking for a motion for approval of CRP 2020 dash 013 513 01:15:06.930 --> 01:15:07.650 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): So moved. 514 01:15:09.780 --> 01:15:13.830 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): We have emotion for approval by board member harden. Do we have a second 515 01:15:14.310 --> 01:15:15.570 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): I can write 516 01:15:17.700 --> 01:15:24.180 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): It was second by board member shilling aminullah everyone to speak at once. So, all those in favor please say aye. 517 01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:26.010 Brent Allen (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 518 01:15:26.070 --> 01:15:26.580 Aye. 519 01:15:28.110 --> 01:15:30.240 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Any opposed, please say nay. 520 01:15:32.700 --> 01:15:39.510 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Wonderful. The motion carries unanimously will Sean. Thank you very much for your presentation. 521 01:15:40.980 --> 01:15:51.360 Will Lyon: Thank you. Thank you very much for the opportunity. We appreciate and at the follow up we lower with guy at the next day. So thank you very much. Absolutely. 522 01:15:51.450 --> 01:15:51.990 Thank you. 523 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:55.410 Will Lyon: Good day. 524 01:15:57.780 --> 01:16:03.960 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): We'll move on to agenda item to see now DDR be Dash 01 to Brooklyn yard applicant will be Joseph Loretta, can we get staff to present their report, please. 526 01:16:17.970 --> 01:16:27.600 Lori Radcliffe-Meyers DIA staff: Yes, thank you again Chairman Lee. My name is Lori Radcliffe-Myers with a downtown Investment Authority, and now we are presenting an overview of DDRB application. The broken yard DDRB the application Seeks conceptual approval for a new mixed use development, the project side is located at the corner of Fourth Street and Riverside Avenue in Brooklyn overlay district. The site is point two on acres and is bounded to the north and east by four Street and Riverside Avenue and to the south and west by a vacant lot The project is proposing a mixed use development, which includes two small eatery coffee shop style units and an upper level studio space with an outdoor event space. The buildings have been pulled to opposite corners of the law allowing for a centrally located semi private open space. The buildings are shown with a variety of color materials and textures, which helps to distinguish the different building volumes prior to final approval staff will need to work with the applicant to ensure the pedestrian so requirements and shade requirements can be met on the project. Based on the foregoing the downtown development review board staff supports conceptual approval of DDRB application. With the following recommendations prior to submit will for final review the developer shall meet with the staff to identify any deviation sought At final review the developer shall provide enough detail so as to illustrate that the pedestrian zone meets the definition of such in the ordinance code. And meets the various requirements and design amenity features for the pedestrian zone. And streetlights benches and street furnishing shall be placed in the Community area street furnishings Shelby, in accordance with the downtown streetscape design guidelines. This concludes staff summation staff is available for questions. Thank you. 538 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:33.180 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Miss Radcliffe-Myers. I appreciate that. Let's move to public comments, please. This is me. 539 01:18:34.350 --> 01:18:39.750 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Yes, thank you, at the moment, I do not see any hands raised. I did receive A couple of comments via email, I will ask Lori start the timer for me as I begin to read this first comment. And this comment is from Curtis Lofton at 2970 St. John's Avenue Jacksonville, Florida 32205 I am Managing Member of elo properties LLP. The owner of vacant land that surrounds the proposed site on all sides, other than the street front. I'm sorry that I cannot participate in today's do meeting, I only found out about this proposed project and this meeting. Three days ago. Through reading it through reading the business journal online Monday morning and having and have prior comments that I could not change on such short notice. For the record, no one associated with this application has contacted me or anyone associated with our ownership prior to two days ago and then only after I I made a phone call to the DDRB staff inquiring about the post development. I was told by staff that current policy does not require the posting of any signs or the mailing of any notes to adjoining property owners. Had I not read about this proposal development in my local newspaper, I would have, I would not have this opportunity to express my opinion and concerns. Since my inquiry to the DDR be staff Monday I have had the opportunity to briefly speak to the principles involved in this application. Although I regret that the applicant or his clients chose to not contact me. Previously I do appreciate their willingness to answer some of my questions. Due to the short notice of this proposal development. I have not had sufficient time to study the merits or shortcomings of what is being proposed. I am not a lamp planner or architect and have not had time to employ professionals that can advise me on these matters. For the record, I do not oppose the concept of the proposed development. I'm just concerned by what my layman's quick review tells me About the implications of this very dense development on such a small parcel on the busiest intersection in the Brooklyn area. My initial concerns are as follows access for services, the proposed development is located on a very heavy traffic corner with with no vehicle access to the site. This means that commercial services such as delivery of supplies were refused removal etc will have to be provided by using public sidewalks to transport these items to and from the nearest public side street which is Main Street Main Street is a cul-de-sac and does not have a sufficient capacity for exclusive delivery and refuse loading areas. Safety I'm concerned the design of this proposal development may not provide sufficient provision for customer safety due to the close proximity of seating and occupancy new to very busy streets. Security the open design of the development can provide potential for security issues during non business hours creating sorry Creating problems from the surrounding area height of structures, the proposed development has plans for several buildings one as high as 35 feet. While the applicant will tell you that the building is not on property line the small size of the site has the same effect as being on property line for joining properties. In addition, screening walls as high as 13 feet are plant along the property line while these improvements baby allow technically they might be more appropriate if onsite if on a site of greater scale.Thank you. So that's an comment there. And then we have one additional comment from Nancy Powell. And that reads I applaud the creative use of infield space. If the buildings can be altered to allow for at least one or two large shade trees, it would add immense value to that corner and the establishment. Every property says we don't have enough space, we will end up with no shade trees. It is my understanding that the property is surrounded by private property. With the building shown being built to the lot lines have will trash be stores and disposed of. And what is the access points for beer and delivery trucks riverside Avenue enforced streets lanes cannot be blocked. Can they and comment. And that is it for public 569 01:22:42.120 --> 01:22:51.720 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Miss Mezini I any appreciate that. I'm going to hand over the meeting to the applicant and his potential team. Mr. Loretta 570 01:22:53.190 --> 01:23:04.080 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Hello. Thank you very much. Joe Loretta with health at 7807 Baymeadows Road East, Suite 200 Jacksonville, Florida three two two five six. With me today with the Cronk Dutch architecture team including Joe Cronk and Cliff Duke, as well as Ladd Roberts with Landwise Design and Cindy trimmer also is with us today. As a journey on the project. Can I share my screen. It's not allowing me to yet. 573 01:23:24.810 --> 01:23:26.730 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Yes. Give me one moment. Any change that. You should be able to know 575 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:39.360 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): All right. Thank you. So we're here today to discuss the hub at the hub Brooklyn. It's really mixed use exciting project that Lori did a fantastic job. Introducing for us today. I don't want to go in through all the texts that everybody may have read, thus far, but the goal of this project is a mixed use project, including Multiple restaurant tours architectural studio and some some flex space for events and things such as that the location within Brooklyn. You can see here Brooklyn's obviously West Jacksonville that major intersection Western intersection southwestern a forest in Riverside. Know the the hub really proposes to make an architectural statement of human scale and inviting space within this, you know, sleek fabric of the riverside Avenue landscape. To place your creativity and connection to the community. You know, we're really trying to create a sustainable and resilient approach to small business. Entrepreneurship throughout this You know, throughout these times. So we've got smaller indoor dining spaces more shaded outdoor spaces. It's really offering a flexible shared use with with less energy costs. Parking is actually available in the larger new deck, just one block away that we recently approved and it's pretty much almost been built in the past couple months. Again, here is the location of the property. Where it sits in kind of an overall setting. A bunch of larger projects going on. Obviously the F is building down here, the new parking garage. The new Marriott's coming in here to 20 riverside with 221 or the next riverside adjacent you know cronk to you. Because the Brooklyn. The broker. croc to can our team also working with, you know, one of the larger property owners within the Brooklyn area who owns around 10 acres of land, looking at master planning. For other portions of the Brooklyn area and this is just a small example of how these parcels on maybe getting integrated and bringing You know, getting cohesively designed together, you know, this is city owned property here within downtown. The emerald necklace is really kind of going to be coming right through this area really looking at the project. We had cracked do cat. A lot of inspiration. For outdoor eateries and cafes and and market spaces that they've they've been to. And so I don't really want to go through and belabor that but we'll get right into the project. So basically what we're looking at kind of here is arrangement of buildings and spaces, you know, late on this laid out in the site kind of create a sense of place that really just grew organically over time, instead of just one standard single building It's perhaps old you know filling station or auto showroom that converted many times over the years as Brooklyn evolve. That's kind of the original concept that that croc Duke really inspired here for this property. What we're looking at is three floors of development on the ground floor. We have a coffee bar a street taco and core kind of Beth bathrooms and and elevator shaft actually as well. There is now an additional bathroom building that has been brought in right here to help us meet code for for full restrooms on the ground floor. Then we have kind of open air gathering spaces and cover gathering spaces on the first floor. The second floor is still got that core with 1000 square foot architectural studio and then Open space for events on the on the second floor and these two locations and then actually since our original packet went out. We did increase the size of the studio to go to a third floor, just to make sure that the office space is going to be sized large enough for the future needs. This a little bit more of a detail first floor floor plan again what we have added since then is another Restaurant building which will have two more handicapped restrooms into this area over here. We have the cafe in this area, the taco with the large bar kind of wrapping through and another you know service area kind of all connecting through for this for the street taco area. The covered area is seen here within blue and then green green is outdoor open area. Second floor architectural studio. A couple private offices and some open air area. And then, third floor is just more architectural studio This is, you know, the conceptual landscape site plan for the project here. What we have heard some some questions is some concerns from staff and others, you know, in the end, the pedestrian way in sidewalk out here is 14 feet in with approximately We've actually widen it where we're making the turn here. So we're going to be around 14 feet down on the sides in this section here. To this point, we've been really looking at maintaining and keeping the existing other than expanding the papers within the right away, maintaining the existing paver threshold that's out there will work with staff to discuss. You know what sort of You know, trash receptacles or benches may wish to be located into the right of way. This is kind of a major intersection with a lot of traffic moving through. So it is a little bit dangerous to be putting in too much. Too much tree or plant material or benches things such as that right at the curb. As a part of the design. We do have, you know, a low wall kind of identifying the semi private space as as Laurie defined and the pedestrian space out here. You know, one of the elements to the city's code is requiring access To buildings from each right of way, although we don't currently have direct access into the buildings itself. The way this has been designed is one overall site. That does have true clear, defined pedestrian access into the property from from both rights of ways. So we believe that that meets the intent of that section of the code. Other things that have been had been brought up regarding you know how delivery and things such will be made is at this point. If I met here. May Street is located in this segment right here. It does have a nice cul de sac on the back end we will be coming through and have the ability for Trash. Trash and delivery to come in after hours on a private time frame. Through the right of way on pedestrian sidewalks and connect into the property. We don't see this as being a concern. And and feel that we can capably handle this. We can also look with City approval to kind of improve this little portion of may straight You know, beyond this, we really believe that we've created a pretty unique project for everybody to take into consideration and Joe with cronk Duke is going to start talking a little bit about the architecture here, Joe. 619 01:31:18.780 --> 01:31:19.470 Joseph Cronk: Thank you Joe. Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Cliff Duke and I are here. My name is Joe cronk at 1936 San Marco Boulevard same address for cliff and We appreciate the opportunity to present the architectural side of this project, you know, today I think for us it's it's extra exciting. We really enjoyed will and Sean's You know, final improvement for the Park Street it's a project that we've really been interested in for years now. And I think for us it's extra special because This is really the first time that cliff and I've presented a project for our own we're always presenting you know presenting for developers or other tenants and And we don't ever get to occupy the things that we designed so this is this is special for for us. Yeah, I think for us it's an opportunity to really be a part of a community that we see is the is the real catalyst to energizing and activating downtown, you know, through that progression of five points, Brooklyn into downtown Cliff, and I are both, you know, Haskell graduates. We grew up hearing early in our careers. Preston's vision of Brooklyn can't say for sure that we agree with everything and believe that it would happen, but We're certainly excited that it did and we want to be a part of it. So for this. It started as a real study to say, you know, how can we be a part of it. What can we do as a firm and as a group of employees. That really see a change of transformative change coming as it relates to how people utilize and activate their streets, how they use their offices. You know, we started this before. You know, the, the virus issue as as Sean and we'll set and these these visions endure through you know these foundations of design and do are through these things, but I think They're strengthened by them and and what we see in our restaurant work and what we see in our office work really allowed us to put on a different lens and say, how do we want to engage the community. And so it part of this is selfish for cliff and I you know wanted it gets us a little bit into the younger world and allows us to see it in a different perspective and allows our employees to do the things that they learn about that they educate themselves in and physically apply it to a community that's going to have Real change to downtown. So, as Joe said the design is to be an office, you know, we sat back and said, How do we create something That we really want to be a part of, you know, me personally I spend probably three hours a day in a coffee shop anyway. I don't have the patience or the personality to sit in an office for for 10 hours, even though we probably all work 15 hours. But this allows us to engage in the community at different levels. It also could be a place that other people in The surrounding 8000 or 10,000 or whatever that number is can kind of get out of their offices and come down to the ground and engage In a place that is unique. And I think one of the things that that cliff and I on our team drew from our master planning efforts more focused on Riverside and Dora. Is the fact that this block really has the last vestige of the old Brooklyn, the old industrial scale in the fabric of Riverside. If you look from the bridge, all the way to the bridge. It seems that the fabric on both sides of the riverside Avenue and really kind of lost that pedestrian scale and to some extent, even the the retail liners. You know, are struggling a bit and I think it has to do with scale and materiality and and just being real and creating places and spaces that can attract You know workforce during the day can attract the perimeter neighborhoods in an early afternoon or certainly over the weekend. So we also saw it as The last vestige as a whole block, not just a corner. So if you look at the properties around it and and the buildings and Jason to and they really have a unique character. With the new parking structure there. It seems to be the time that a block like this could join in efforts to create a destination identity and really make a cool place we've all seen Great Places in Greenville in North Charleston and in Birmingham and Atlanta etc etc cliff and are fortunate enough to have An office on worth Avenue down in Palm Beach and it's in the old Meisner design that is really about is is originally mixed use as you can get outside of Europe, you know, 1916 1917 I think But it really shows that living and working and all the cliches that you hear really work and we go down and we're just infused with creativity by the surroundings and we want that here we love San Marco where our offices. Now we're kind of staring out at around about right now. But I think it's, it's time for us to try that to be a part of activating a place. So this project we're also fortunate enough to have great relationships with You know some of the best coffee shops and and food vendors in town, and particularly the group that is joining us on this. I think Is going to allow us to step aside and they'll really take on the show of of activating and creating a great place. So for us, the as Joe mentioned the third floor was really only a six feet increase in the building. Primarily as we built the model and we sat around that we studied its form. We felt it needed to get bigger. We kind of had an artificially high pair of it and we said six feet allows us to have a little mezzanine upstairs. We're not looking for a big office. We want a small office that we can work outside. I know that sounds crazy, but we do it here a lot in San Marco, you'll see us sitting on a bench or around in the grass and, you know, primarily, that's what we want to try to do In really drawing from other cities that have used catalyst projects to start an organic growth of creating Place we feel that the property around us. We certainly understand and recognize Curtis's concerns. You know, if you're in one of the courtyards in Palm Beach, one thing you see all the time is great little carts, full of trash and great little You know carts, full of food working themselves through the European streets servicing restaurants and coffee shops and sandwich shops and Close vendors and that kind of thing. So it's done everywhere. It's not perfect, but we feel that we have as Joe said a good clean cord or to the service area, but I think most importantly We really felt that this project that is stranded on its own little island kind of tucked in has the opportunity to provide a vision to provide a concept. That could grow organically as the community needed it and work itself towards may Street and then start to really create the identity of the block, we've We've had the chance to talk to a few of the other neighbors. And I think that the idea of saying you know what this block really deserves a human scale and a regional Brooklyn scale. Maybe we don't need another skyscraper on the corner I could be wrong. But I think ultimately This language has the ability to kind of really grow out and engage the other edges of streets and become a really unique place. I think one of the projects you know we travel a lot. We hit as many of the cities from California. Through the Caribbean and Europe as we can. And I ran across a project in Greenville. Literally this weekend, and it's called gather and it just came online and it's it's it's a really unique place and kind of the north part of Main Street. And we turn the corner and Boom, there it was. And what this can't be happening because we're going to be able to live it. When we walk in and it's a really neat place. To get a chance to see it's much larger than this project, but it gives you a sense of, of a supporting element to an existing fabric. That that I think is going to be great for the community. It's already packed in doing well. I think the other the other you know we understand transact we understand Preston's vision of a Brickell Avenue long riverside And that the Community scales back as it works to park. But we also think that perhaps there's an opportunity for Kind of a little bit of that that life to work itself to Riverside Avenue and become that portal into a very different language in a very different scale that Sean and we are doing along Park Street and really draw it in. If you look at the emerald necklace. You know, as they come off of the McCoys Creek, they're probably going to work their way down price, I believe it is and kind of punch across or they might come down for us and work their way to the river. So we're right on the path. This is a nice vestige for those taking the new loop around the river or for just the workers in the area. It's going to have a very simple honest material list, we have to build it efficiently and we want to do it that way we want it to have the qualities of something that grew organically isn't quite forced And isn't understandable in your first visit it changes a little bit and then You know whether there's, you know, events or, you know, we don't know about that right now. We want to keep it simple with with breakfast and lunch and early afternoon cocktails. That's not our business. We love designing restaurants. Our business is just to be, you know, To create a creative environment for architects and landscape architects and planners. And whoever wants to be a part of it in a very on office way. So that's the catalyst of our of our concept we hope that it it kind of fits within the goals of the board of the DDR be and the DA. And that's why we're here to, you know, present what we hope is our, our next on office. So I'd like to just say that to reinforce it reinforced Joe's points the chronic architecture sees this this project as as as an infusion into the area and that we want to be a contribution to the area. And we are asking that the board, except this is the design that it is and the aspects of the design are meeting the criteria and look forward to a positive ruling on this project. 684 01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:37.620 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): And thanks, I kind of cycle through some of the architectural graphics while Joe was talking Joe and Cliff. Just to wrap up. You know, there was some questions and regarding shade coverage. And so we're going to Discuss with staff. Some of those elements and and also internally discussed and see you know what opportunities there may be to be able to create some shade within this Within this project we're trying not to really get into too much of the intersection out here as it's really kind of a site triangle based issue. But we'll see what we can do to create a little bit of shade more requested to shade the right away a little bit more. So at this point, we'll take some questions. 690 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:27.750 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Mr. Miller I appreciate that. Also know that I'm assuming, you'll be Not voting on this and be stepping down as a board member since you're presenting 692 01:43:33.390 --> 01:43:35.880 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): I will be, but I am in supporting the project. 693 01:43:39.240 --> 01:43:39.570 Thank you. 694 01:43:40.860 --> 01:43:45.060 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): So let's take comments and we'll go in reverse order, this time. How about a board member Davison 695 01:43:50.010 --> 01:43:50.520 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): Thank you. 696 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:53.460 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): Nice project Cronk Duke I you know I see this as more about, you know, the outdoor spaces that the buildings, create rather than the building's themselves. And I think knowing that corner well And offers you know some really interesting intimate. Intimate spaces, you know, public and private, not just on grade but you know as as as you have them carefully teared And I certainly see this as a step up from a lot of the retail that we're seeing on Riverside, you know, heading north, but that's about it. Nice project. Thank you. Thank you. 700 01:44:31.710 --> 01:44:34.710 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Mr Davison. How about board member showing 701 01:44:36.030 --> 01:44:43.710 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): At. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I agree. I think this is a great looking project I recognize that this See The conceptual review and You know, thank you for for the amount of detail that that's that y'all have provided for this review and I think it looks really good. The only Joe, I feel, I feel like I need to least raise and I feel like That if you're commenting that that. Similarly, I guess the only thing I would suggest and and i know you referenced it was looking at, you know, the areas that you're seeing just in this view the sidewalk. And and if there's anything that can be done, and something to just jazz up that that amenity space and the space new all out and I guess a question, you know, an idea I throw out is, is there anything that y'all could do with the knee wall. You know, to build some color into it or some some variation, anything like that to really jazz that that area of knowledge in front there. So I just throw that out as a suggestion. But, but, again, I think it's a great looking project. And thank you very much for your presentation. 709 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:07.110 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Thank you, Bill. One of the things that you know we have been talking about is the thought process of maybe kind of incorporating a little bit of a monument. Sign integrated into this new wall a little bit color, maybe, similar to the Unity plaza across the way some of that would actually generate A little bit of the jazz Enos that you're looking at, really, at this point we hadn't really wanted to adjust. Much of the current payment and right away, but we'll discuss with staff, if they request that we remove some of those papers and put in some landscaping and and other amenities. 712 01:46:36.300 --> 01:46:43.470 Joseph Cronk: Well Joe, I think, I think there's a lot of cues that we've seen from will and Sean's, you know, final refinements that may be a good You know cues to to how to treat those spaces I you know we we unfortunately kind of drew the line at the project and worked in, you know, from timing and And it is very austere along that edge. I think there's a there's a component of safety that we wanted to address. So that wall is providing that but I think it's a little austere and we should have some fun in the right away as well. So we'll certainly take that as our next design creative opportunity. 716 01:47:12.300 --> 01:47:14.280 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Yes, that that would be great. Yeah. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, thank you. 718 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:23.460 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you for remembering appreciate that. Cut out skip board member little red. I will go straight to board member dirt and please 720 01:47:32.940 --> 01:47:34.230 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you to to Joe and clip for a really Pleasant change from a lot of what we do see along going north in particular. And I really applaud that. And I do have, I do think that the conditions that were referenced by Lori Radcliffe Meyers in her staff report are essential to our review today and possibly our approval. I am greatly concerned about the pedestrian zone and would echo The terms of art of jazzing that up that Mr Schilling referenced. It's such an important area of an intersection that it seems to me that not only would It be a benefit to the public, but actually I think by By improving the area on both Riverside and forced it will be a benefit to the project. Also, it will draw more people, I believe. And so I'm encouraged by Joe Crocs comment just before I came on that he Seems enthralled and very interested in in being creative there. So, you know, I also, this may be a question for staff, Mr. Chairman. I know that we are there is a riverside Avenue road diet project. Somewhere in the works. And I believe that it ended at four Street, if I remember correctly, but this is at that intersection. And so I was just wondering if staff. Might be able to give us a, you know A one minute or 32nd update on that and whether or not there is going to be any impact to that particular intersection, that would be relevant to to Joe and cliff and Joe Loretta as they're making revisions to to the project so I, I would like to know that would, that that's the End of my comments. Thank you. 738 01:50:26.280 --> 01:50:26.910 GParola: It's a chairman of Address that if I not 740 01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:29.970 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Yeah, please. Mr. Pearl. 741 01:50:30.330 --> 01:50:39.840 GParola: Thank you. This this intersection, the redesign of it is being driven by the redesign of four street or what is DuPont On the other side of Riverside as companion to the F is headquarters. So if there's any influencing right now this intersection. It's that that project. And I think you bring up a really good point. And we would We would encourage the applicant or to reach out to Kelsey Cox at public works and and get familiar with this. 744 01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:04.320 Joseph Cronk: Well, 745 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.540 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Mr Birla 746 01:51:14.310 --> 01:51:18.600 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): There's no more comments board member Durden, let's move to board member harden, please. 747 01:51:27.840 --> 01:51:29.070 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Mr harden, are you available. 748 01:51:31.440 --> 01:51:34.260 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Sorry, I apologize and sick time I started talking on mute. All fell victim to that. I think once or Twice. So, so I want to comment on. I think the the access is probably my, my main concern. And I guess it staff is okay with that. And that falls within code access that We talked about with trash and with deliveries, because obviously you don't want truck stopping on Riverside Avenue. To make that. So I think that needs to be worked out. I think it'd probably be good to have that conversation. With the adjacent property owner that was probably the only thing that gave me pause from being in full support. Otherwise, I think it's a nice use of a small space and a dense area. So those are my comments. 755 01:52:18.300 --> 01:52:20.130 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you board member hard and appreciate that. Let's move on to board member, Alan, please. 757 01:52:25.650 --> 01:52:27.930 Brent Allen (DDRB Board): Thank you. I think this is An example of a fantastic project. You have a very unique parcel. That is just in my opinion been an eyesore for quite some time as you drive up and down. Go into downtown. So this is a very, very outside the box idea to utilize that parcel that really people have abandoned over the years. So I'm happy to see that it's coming to life with a great project on top of it. It's also a nice break from some of the bigger box style construction, we've seen in the area. So, so that is certainly a unique building structure as well as far as the concerns the public comment concern about refuse usage and delivery trucks and stuff, if I'm not mistaken. I think this backs up to The cul de sac that is also being used for refuse purposes and delivery purposes, from the adjacent property owner that that I think has a distillery there so I don't have as much concern, maybe as some other board members or the public on that i i think it, it's already being used for that and It wouldn't be any bit of a change. So I'm in full support of this very unique and neat project. Thank you. 767 01:54:01.620 --> 01:54:04.020 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you board member Alan appreciate that. And I'll add a few additional comments as well. I really appreciate that person page and We were Saying, get this level of quality detail. Thank you for all the additional work that went into helping us understand what is really a pretty complex projects I can imagine the difficulties, you'll have and building it without great access scrape particular access to the site. I would also say, I appreciate the fact that the corner is really left to Like Open on sites. I presume, you're not expecting to answer the businesses are closed. So there really is this gift of the corner to the public and I appreciate that gesture. You will of course be looked down upon by many of your neighbors in terms of the high rise views. So I would challenge the design team to be Cognizant of equipment and where you're going to be placing your air handlers or package units. Your vents and stacks. That you'll be really a look at from all directions and online. So I hope that is in consideration before final Other than that, I think it's wonderful. And again, thank you for all the energy and effort you put into the 779 01:55:38.820 --> 01:55:41.220 Joseph Cronk: Vector art or, you know, 780 01:55:42.150 --> 01:55:50.460 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): If there are no other comments, I'd like to see if I could get a motion for approval for conceptual of Dash. One, two, with the recommendations. That will list by a staff in our approval and synthesis conceptual Mr to I don't believe we have to vote on each one of the recommendations. 783 01:56:11.670 --> 01:56:17.430 Jason Teal OGC: Mr. Chairman, that's correct. Since you're a conceptual approval, you only vote on on those that final approval. 784 01:56:19.050 --> 01:56:22.500 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you for that clarification, so I'll be looking for a motion to approve. 785 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:24.660 Your Chairman. 786 01:56:25.890 --> 01:56:29.850 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Right, I have a motion to approve from a board member dirt and. Do I have a second 787 01:56:30.270 --> 01:56:30.540 So, 788 01:56:33.090 --> 01:56:35.070 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): I didn't catch you. Second, that was 789 01:56:36.150 --> 01:56:37.200 Brent Allen (DDRB Board): Brent some of 790 01:56:37.650 --> 01:56:47.010 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Oh, thank you for me rollin appreciate that. So we have a First and Second. All those in favor please say aye. 791 01:56:47.730 --> 01:56:48.990 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 792 01:56:50.580 --> 01:56:53.040 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Great. And, any opposed please say nay. Wonderful. We have conceptual approval unanimously for the Brooklyn yard DDR be 2020 dash 794 01:57:01.620 --> 01:57:05.280 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): 012 thank you very much for this presentation. 795 01:57:05.850 --> 01:57:06.540 Thank you. 796 01:57:07.800 --> 01:57:14.490 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Mr. Chairman, yes. I'm sorry to interrupt. We do have a hand raised from the public and I'm unsure. That up to you if we want to address that, if we want to wait until Pre before we adjourn the meeting, but it is Nancy, but I, and it's been raised for a little bit. 799 01:57:25.380 --> 01:57:26.550 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Is it for this. Item or is it for a general comment. 801 01:57:31.980 --> 01:57:32.370 There we go. 802 01:57:33.480 --> 01:57:41.010 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Yeah, we're happy to hear it if someone could just set a timer for three minutes please thank you and please keep your full name and address 803 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:58.860 Nancy Bateh: Yes, my name is Nancy potato 9775 sharing cross drive my family is owner on an address up property to this and I just wanted to voice my concerns, along with everybody else concerning delivery, as well as rehab. Services area. This is just a project yesterday, so I haven't had an opportunity to really dig into it. To find out more about what The proposal was so I may have additional questions later. But just as an initial do on this, I am concerned with delivery service and such as The main street called a sack is approximately one block away and deliver we believe will be happening throughout the day. So I just want to make sure that Our property, which is used as a restaurant and our parking lot, so I'm not going to be impacted by people trying to deliver to this place. 808 01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:46.680 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you for those comments. I'd like to give the applicant an opportunity, an opportunity today to address those, but also the role if you could connect the applicant with the speaker for additional conversations before final so who on the applicant side would like to address the comment. 810 01:59:07.080 --> 01:59:11.100 Joseph Cronk: I'd like to, if I could, Mr. Chairman, please. Joe Cronk You know, this was, this is, you know, when you start with a piece of property that is, you know, in quotes landlocked. Your first instinct is to be concerned. There's no question about it. And I think that the The CBD and the work that you all have done since early 2000 to lay the foundation and provide the tools necessary and the in the in the guardrails, and the You know, to make sure that those kind of things are addressed in our in place and we plan on following those rules we come With a unique insight, like we said, from Palm Beach and there's no trickier place. There's no picky place, you know, little drops of grease on The pavers are really frowned upon one little piece of trash. We live in that environment every day. And so for us, it is literally from the coldest Act, which is a public sidewalk down to the end of the Cold the sack. It's literally about 64 feet to our wide gate to our service area. We want to keep the service area in the back of our building, Joe. If you go to the site plan. Very small, but it has enough room for grease traps, it has enough room for trash cans for trash coolers. And most importantly, we want to be able to leave the majority of the rear of our project open and available for an organic growth that may never come, Mr Lofton has has certainly expressed an interest to listen. He, he has the same passions for these kind of places as we do. So maybe that's out there and a much bigger scale. So we've really focused the service. Not that one. Joe, if you go to the the newest floor plan that I sent you earlier, perhaps Could be. Yes, sir. So we've really defined the service area to keep a nice high wall. Contained smells contain workers working. But most importantly, our kind of dog. And game yard Outback will create that organic connection. So it's about 64 feet along the sidewalk, we would take responsibility for Making it clean, like we do in Palm Beach, making it sure that it's not staying that there aren't carts laying around there aren't trash cans getting stored And we feel really comfortable you'll certainly know the name of the vendors They're pretty responsible and in dense areas and some of our best parts of Jacksonville. So we hope that is enough at this level to show and will certainly show it in greater detail. For the final but hopefully that's enough to at least give some comfort that we're thinking about those things. 829 02:02:02.430 --> 02:02:13.260 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): But thank you for taking the time to respond really appreciate that. And for you know your attention to try to accommodate the neighbors and the restaurants will have on site. I'm going to go ahead and close out this action items since we've voted and it's been approved. And we will get our screen back Thank you very much. Let's move on to item number three old business right now we don't have any in that agenda item if there isn't anything from staff will move right into new business. On New business. We've got to vote on the nominating committee is recommendations for Or vice chair and for Secretary Love work MEMBER DAVIS to fill us in on the nominating committees recommendations. Mr. Mr. Davis and are you available. 838 02:03:16.590 --> 02:03:18.240 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Extra doesn't look like he's in the media. 839 02:03:20.940 --> 02:03:26.790 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Was there anyone else on the nominating committee that could give the recommendations. 840 02:03:29.010 --> 02:03:35.460 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Mr. Chairman, I guess I'll. Oh, it looks like Mr. Dave, some may have unmuted. But if if If Mr. Dave sent in available on. I'm happy to fill in for him. 842 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:44.550 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): Go ahead, Bill. 843 02:03:46.200 --> 02:03:48.720 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Right. You sure you sure you don't want to take It take the helm. 845 02:03:53.910 --> 02:03:54.690 Craig Davisson (DDRB Board): Go ahead and go 846 02:03:55.110 --> 02:04:11.670 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): All right, I'll, I'll jump in. So so BOARD MEMBER DAVIS, and I were able to to meet and are very happy to make the following recommendations for for the board's consideration. We recognize that board member Alan has served as as the board secretary for the past year and we would like to recommend him for Vice Chairman for this year and To fill his shoes. We would like to recommend Board member Durden to serve as Secretary for this coming year. 850 02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:48.900 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Wonderful, thank you for those recommendations. I'd like to add a board member Alan willing to accept the nomination. 851 02:04:50.310 --> 02:04:54.000 Brent Allen (DDRB Board): This is Brent I'm humbled to accept and thank you very much. 852 02:04:55.440 --> 02:05:00.060 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you. And I'd like remember Durden if she'd be willing to accept secretary position. 853 02:05:02.580 --> 02:05:08.550 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Likewise, I'm humbled to an end humbled by the nomination and willing to accept. Thank you. 854 02:05:12.210 --> 02:05:16.560 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Wonderful. Thank you. All right. Let's take the vote on device share first Mrs discussion. 856 02:05:18.660 --> 02:05:22.980 Jason Teal OGC: Yes. Before you get to a vote. You, you need to open it up. To the rest of the DDR be if anybody else would like to make any nominations for, I guess we'll take them in order for vice chair so you'll open it up for nominations and if if there are any then You'll give the opportunity, then you'll close the nominations and then you'll you'll vote on whatever the slate is 859 02:05:45.780 --> 02:05:55.080 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Thank you, Mr. T. I appreciate that. So I'll, I'll back up here. Let's open it up for any additional nominations for Vice Chair just doing Vice Chair at this time. 860 02:05:58.830 --> 02:06:08.160 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Okay. Hearing no additional nominations for Vice Chair I'll close that and we will move to vote on the vice chair. Do I have a motion to approve the vice chair. 862 02:06:14.430 --> 02:06:15.030 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): So make It improve 864 02:06:17.550 --> 02:06:18.480 brenna durden (DDRB Board): Okay, whoever 865 02:06:19.110 --> 02:06:20.760 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Let the other person or second 866 02:06:22.470 --> 02:06:27.000 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Motion for Mr. And a second from Mr shearling to have On serve as vice chair. All those in favor please say aye. 868 02:06:33.720 --> 02:06:35.010 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 869 02:06:36.690 --> 02:06:38.850 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Any opposed pleasing. Hearing on the motion carries. Remember Let's move on to Secretary I'll open up to the board any additional nominations for Secretary of the board member Here, you know, the nominations. I'll close that part of this process and we'll look for a nominate excuse me an approval for Mr to serve as Secretary 873 02:07:19.950 --> 02:07:22.080 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Mr. Chairman, I'll make that motion. So moved. 874 02:07:22.650 --> 02:07:29.220 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Second ocean sailing and a second from Mr. Loretta, all those in favor please say aye. 875 02:07:29.610 --> 02:07:30.570 Joe Loretta (DDRB Board): Aye. Aye. 876 02:07:30.840 --> 02:07:31.290 Aye. 877 02:07:32.520 --> 02:07:33.420 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): All post 878 02:07:34.470 --> 02:07:35.070 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): They say nay. 879 02:07:36.750 --> 02:07:49.230 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Here, you no, nays both Vice Chair and Secretary passed unanimously congratuations, Mr Allen and congratulations. Mr. And thank you for serving in the upcoming year. And those two roles. On from that action item to action five public comments. 881 02:08:16.680 --> 02:08:19.170 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): I did not see any additional hands raised. 882 02:08:27.060 --> 02:08:27.960 Looks like Mr. 883 02:08:39.870 --> 02:08:41.220 Trevor Lee (DDRB Chair): Then we will move our adjourned. 884 02:08:43.980 --> 02:08:45.120 Christian Harden (DDRB Board): Thomas. Thank you. 885 02:08:45.450 --> 02:08:45.810 Ina Mezini (DIA Staff): Thank you. 886 02:08:46.260 --> 02:08:46.860 Bill Schilling (DDRB Board): Thank you. 887 02:08:47.370 --> 02:08:48.000 Thank you.